jezdinskyjiri opened this issue Mar 21, 2023 · 2 comments Comments. Pressure advance testing is available in orca slicer (or I guess Bambu studio beta at this point). 225 is the minimum temperature I could use to achieve adhesion. Pressure Advance has no effect upvote · comments. • 2 yr. So which result is be reliable? Most irritating for me is that the manual calibration in BS and Orca deliver different values. If you prefer to set PA values in the AMS slot UI, uncheck 'Enable pressure advance' in the filament settings. Go to the device tab and edit the K value (near the AMS setting). I Love and Appreciate the "Tip of the Day" little "Clippy" tips every time I open Prusa Slicer. Members Online • lfenske . But looking at the results, I would pick 0. First of all, download Orca Slicer and run some calibrations for the material,. 01, 0. This comprehensive guide will help you achieve optimal print quality and. Those changes did the job for me, all problems solved. ago. Multicolor printing issues with Neptune 4pro upvote ·. byMH62 July 22, 2023, 8:42pm 1. Members Online. Especially the built-in calibration function. Remember to unzip the files and then proceed with. JoshBear April 30,. Pressure Advance. Hope that answers your question! Orca Slicer refers to “K-factor” as “Pressure advance”. With the low K value, the filament was not sticking at all to the bed, and if it did - the layers were not adhering correctly causing layer separation and cracks. The other aspect of pressure advance is that the pressure needs to be reduced linearly during the deceleration at the end of an extruding move. On 5/7/2023 at 9:03 AM, atrushing said: The slicer likes to assume and insert start temperatures unless you define something. 5) doesn’t have support for it. 6 nozzle. There’s a section on the right and one on the left that you’re looking at (one is Acceleration, one Deceleration). Orca Slicer refers to “K-factor” as “Pressure advance”. It is important to note that each method has two versions: one for a direct drive extruder and one for a Bowden extruder. I have passively learned more cool things this software can do from those. I use Orcaslicer on my Ender 3 S1 with Klipper. Choose “Pressure Advance”, then choose “DDE” as Extruder type, that’s for the KINGROON KP3S Pro V2, KLP1, and the most of the other KINGROON models. Ellis' generator is itself adapted from a generator developed by Sineos for. It always happend when printing the actual object started. 03. Here are the results I got. I’ve noticed, that this calibration largely. My understanding is that the automatic flow calibration isn't actually determining the filaments flow ratio, but is actually determining the pressure advance for the filament. I've seen a noticeable increase in quality for my prints since I started using Orca. Orca slicer has actual pressure advance that works in the filament and survives reset , and forget for autoflow and auto dynamics it is rubbish . Controlling Temperature G-Code Order; Passing Slicer Variables to a Macro; Useful Macros. 9683 because that was the calculated value, unfortunately it didn’t help. Pressure Advance Sanity Check. Orca Getting Started. Your Pressure Advance is probably not tuned correctly. * Temp tower. I was wondering if the k value in the device tab that I set in Bambu Studio will override the PA setting applied in the filament setting in Orca Slicer?Linear Advance. just4memike July 19, 2023, 7:26pm 7. Question: do I set the resulting number in the slicer (It's a filament setting in Orca) or in Klipper printer. Here’s a. Hello u/Dr_Handlebar_Mustach!Be sure to check the following. It's a fork of Studio and has many more settings including the ability to save the "k-value" to the filament profile. Many Git commands accept both tag and branch names, so creating this branch may cause unexpected behavior. (No need to ACTUALLY use a square. Volumetric Speed Limiting. One of the first thing he worked on was Pressure Advance,. Strongly suggest try Orca slicer and do the two main calibrations ( flow and K factor) Calibration · SoftFever/OrcaSlicer Wiki · GitHub I have done for my main filaments ( flow, K - pressure advance , Max flow, VFA - max speed ). Bambu Studio 1. I was very skeptical at first. Calibrate Pressure Advance. Marlin calls it “Linear Advance”, but it’s the exact same thing. The ORCA offshore series covers a capacity range of 20–120 m3/24h. 3 KB. When I set my flow ratio to 0. Just not that clear which one to go for :) The line test is deprecated. It became much less noticeable when I changed it to around 5%. Now whenever I pull up that profile my new values come along with it. It. 7. Bring on the season!! cetacean, killer whales,. Dudditz August 2, 2023, 2:34pm 18. On the orcaslicer calibration guide it says I need to manually add. M140 S0. Linear Advance (LA) is a technology that predicts the pressure build-up in the extruder when printing at higher speeds. 020, with a 0. casper July 7, 2023, 9:23am 1. "In this version of the firmware, the flow dynamics parameter (similar to pressure advance in Klipper, or linear advance in Marlin)" Reply sparcv9 • X1C •[SOLVED] Calibrating with Super Slicer solved the issue. It's worth experimenting with. Install the Orca Slicer, which is basically 95% the same interface as the Bambu Studio slicer tool and follow the Carbon X1 calibration video here:. Started the print again and set the speed to 140% at the printer, all was good. M900 K[pressure_advance] L1000 M10; BS transfer test based on Orca slicer ouput or what ever is the actual value M900 K0. The Pressure or Linear Advance algorithm addresses pressure variations by simulating the hotend and extruder as a spring, acknowledging that pressure. They also end up sticking to my scraper, the back of my magnetic PEI build plate, etc. Printed at 0. Orca Slicer is an open-source project, and I'm deeply grateful to all my sponsors and backers. Klipper is SET_PRESSURE_ADVANCE ADVANCE= RRF is M572 D0 S; Save the file, making sure the extension is . This is from Orca Slicer the procedure is the same for any nozzle size for TPU you may need to increase the test above 0. Temp tower is a straightforward test. I use the Orca Slicer variant of Bambu's slicer because it offers finer-grained control over the slicing process and makes tuning and using tuned filament profiles much easier than Bambu's official slicer, which lacks good calibration routines for some of the most important variables in good printing: flow rate, pressure advance, and. Most importantly, it strikes the right balance between ease of use and configurability, making it a versatile slicer that suits both beginners and advanced users alike. 02. Orca slicer seems to only do a wipe OR a retract. With a properly tuned printer, you should be able to disable all slicer acceleration controls and get great looking parts. First chance to look at Flow Rate / Pressure Advance variation from spool to spool with same vendor, same color, and same X1C. Read on to learn how to set it up! Advertisement. I used that on my Ender printer and the results it provides are. I hope they are going to refine the process in the next version - namely managing and adding results in the slicer freely, storing the results in the cloud (. This alone allows GCODE to process at a much faster pace you would expect over recent. Just the Advanced section of settings OS has 10 items and BS has 4. You can search the keyword 0. by Ken Douglas. I made pressure advance test and change a bit in filament settings, also changed the flow ratio. Unofficial space for Orca Slicer users to discuss settings, features and tips. You are not looking for perfection here! Just as close as you can get. Studio recently added some calibration routines, but the results are stored in the printer and apparently ignored by Orca. I was very skeptical at first. Orca Slicer Calibration Guide on Github. megaismo • 5 mo. 0 PRESSURE ADVANCE. Ender 3 with Sprite DD exturder, 0. 5S MK3 MK3S MMU2S MK2S MK3S+. You’ll never go back to the shitty lines. 034 to find. Reply More posts you may like. Fortunately, there is a solution and that's to use Orca slicer instead. . Try increasing in. A tag already exists with the provided branch name. However, I only have such a problem with TPU. One major example, pointed out by some of you on Twitter, is the ability to alter the pressure advance and max flow rate settings of individual filaments, which many of you on Twitter told me you were sorely missing. Beta Was this translation helpful? LenDizzle. I use the Orca Slicer variant of Bambu's slicer because it offers finer-grained control over the slicing process and makes tuning and using tuned filament profiles much easier than Bambu's official slicer, which lacks good calibration routines for some of the most important variables in good printing: flow rate, pressure advance, and. 5 KB Note that colling AUX is set at the moment to 0 but i do increase it for PETG on some prints to 20-40% , Some time instead of AUX add Chamber fan 40%, which can be done manually or with custom G command . Add Tap's activate_gcode: This G-code will allow you to probe cold, but will also prevent you from probing with a nozzle at printing temperature (to try to preserve your build surface). 3mf. [gcode_macro START_PRINT] gcode: G28; Home all axes BED_MESH_CALIBRATE G92 E0; Reset Extruder G1 Z5. When you turn cura’s acceleration control off, klipper just uses max_accel in your config file. No idea if pressure advance goes through so I haven't tried them. I put the new speeds and temperatures in the orca profile and resliced, and it came out with an identical print time. Go to the filament settings, then enable the “Pressure Advance” setting and keep its default settings. If it is a flow ratio issue (over extrusion), simply run the flow test on Orca Slicer. I tried lowering the outer wall speed but it actually made things worse with the overhangs. I am using Orca Slicer, and I've just come across this and didn't know the answer. 066 which is way higher than I've seen before. r/OrcaSlicer. You can turn off the lidar flow. This leads to other issues (i. Basically, it makes sure that your extruded filament bead stays at a consistent width when sudden changes in speed or directions take place. I'm a X1C owner, and i've been using orca slicer since purchase because of the manual calibrations and extra settings available in the profiles. Things like setting your pressure advance by filament is a life saver as it can vary between materials. . Flow calibration no, not really. 17-15. Dishwasher safe. I rarely use the lidar calibration unless I'm in a. That being said I’m not entirely unwilling to fiddle around with settings, which I do by project basis. ago. スクリーンショット 2023-07-07 182100 1441×946 184 KB. It is important to note that each. Those are the same thing. After many failed prints with stringing and blobs I ran the Orca slicer pressure advance calibration which told me to use 0. Once pressure advance is tuned in Klipper, it may still be useful to configure a small retract value in the slicer (eg, 0. I use the Orca Slicer variant of Bambu's slicer because it offers finer-grained control over the slicing process and makes tuning and using tuned filament profiles much easier than Bambu's official slicer, which lacks good calibration routines for some of the most important variables in good printing: flow rate, pressure advance, and. Note - there is rarely such thing as perfect pressure advance. Bambu Studio 1. Use Orca Slicer (same as Bambu but with more options) and there you can. Takes like 3 seconds to do. Orca slicer setting the same as the Bambu with Enable pressure advance difference image 711×591 20. ( NOTE Bambu users: take note that PA values set in the filament profile will override PA values set in AMS slots. flow rate 1. 4. Flow calibration enabled. 2. r/OrcaSlicer. 94 from Bambu seemed low. So it's quite perfect. Pressure Advance has no effect upvote · comments. Klipper console is showing PA amount changing as the print goes on, but the print looks the same throughout. Reply reply Darwinian999 • This happens when the filament flow ratio is out and can be accentuated if the filament pressure advance is also out. liefooghe. I much prefer tower method. The temp tower is a vertical tower with multiple blocks, each printed at a different. A lot of printers nowadays us an open source firmware called "Klipper" thanks to being able to install it to a Linux(or even windows with WSL) machine to offload the computation tasks from the generally weak onboard SoCs that the printers come with. Pressure advance adjusts the flow accordingly per acceleration / decelaration of the print head so that there is for example no oozing during slower movement e. •. Did not need to do retraction, but for Prusa and ender i do that as wellSee the 📄"Passing Slicer Variables to PRINT_START" section of my tuning guide for more information. Turned out, the flow ratio needed to be at 1,045 and pressure advance at 0,036. pressure advance) as certain Orca features are not supported in BambuStudio. JayZay September 12, 2023, 3:57pm 3. there’s also a QIDI X-MAX 3 0. Pressure Advance Max volumetric speed Silver 220c 0. However, tuning can go a long way to making seams less visible. I’ve now done the calibration with Orca-Slicer and after the 2 prints I’ve changed the value to 0. Trying to use the pressure advance line and tower test to find a good K value. Orca Dynamics, Victoria, British Columbia. Later, I got some silver Inland PETG, which worked OK using the red Sunlu settings, but needed some flow and pressure advance tweaks (Orca-Slicer) for best results. Select the appropriate profiles for your printer and the filament you want to calibrate on the left-side panel. ago. Reply reply. Pattern Pressure Advance Calibration. PXL_20230723_154214245 1920×3413 391 KB The sweet spot is around 0. M900 K0. Hi, thanks @deckingman for your reply, and sorry for the delay, I only had time to get back to this today. It is recommended to keep these options disabled when using Klipper as they are likely to result in poor quality prints. 1 Y20 Z0. Orca Slicer includes three approaches for calibrating the pressure advance value. But you need to change it each time for new filament. 4 onward. Good thing that it shares the Bambu Studio already user profiles. Comes with a storage pouch. ) The pressure advance value will differ for every printer, and it’s alright if you get a higher or lower value. Controlling Temperature G-Code Order; Passing Slicer Variables to a Macro; Useful Macros. Flow set by instructions in orca slicer. 75mm) and to utilize the slicer's "wipe on retract option" if available. This command is certainly not generated by the slicer. Use Orca Slicer (same as Bambu but with more options) and there you can. r/OrcaSlicer. s. 3mf. r/OrcaSlicer. 4 if my memory is correct). There is seam gap in the process profile under the quality tab. Make sure print bed is clean by washing with dish soap and water [and not Isopropyl Alcohol], check bed temperature [increasing tend to help], run bed leveling or full calibration, and remember to use glue if one is using the initial cool plate [not Satin finish that is not yet released] or Engineering plate. Your Pressure Advance is probably not tuned correctly. did you play with retraction or preassure advance. with each new filament. This is why these purple calibration lines printed OK. Hello, I hope you can help clarify what the difference is between pressure advance and K-value? Using Orca Slicer with Bambu lab P1P. License . For the last few weeks, there has been a new method of calibrating pressure advance with klipper called the pattern method. Btw the filament is from geeetech. Did all the Orca slicer calibrations and everything is dialed in. Conclusion. It's a fork of Studio and has many more settings including the ability to save the "k-value" to the filament profile. ) ARCHIVED; General » 3D Printing & CAD Design. Direct Drive etwa 0,01 / Bowden etwa 0,1I am a total newbie and had that exact same problem. I did the whole orca calibration and did both flow rate and pressure advance. - I had to modify the stock PETG settings because I was having some pretty severe overhang warping due to the cooling. Pressure advance adjusts the flow accordingly per acceleration / decelaration of the print head so that there is for example no oozing during slower movement e. 036 in filament settings make that gcode is populated with M900 K0. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons (International License) Public Domain. 6 on higher wood content filament and change the engine to arachne when using 0. In Klipper, Pressure Advance can predict nozzle pressure for more consistent extrusion and sharper corners. 05. 032-0. But you need to change it each time for new filament. ago. Overture grey PETG. First of all, download Orca Slicer and run some calibrations for the material, temp tower, flow rate, preasure advance, then try again after you have dialed in the filament settings. My general checklist for strength issues includes: increase the print temp. user_166926833 March 26, 2023, 1:36pm 4. false. I use the Orca Slicer variant of Bambu's slicer because it offers finer-grained control over the slicing process and makes tuning and using tuned filament profiles much easier than Bambu's official slicer, which lacks good calibration routines for some of the most important variables in good printing: flow rate, pressure advance, and. Beeper; Conditional Homing; Conditional QGL; Dump Variables; Get Variable; Hotend Fan RPM. In the example below I changed the Pressure advance and Flow ratio values. Nimrod September 5, 2023, 10:51pm 12. Pressure Advance. Orca Slicer includes a pressure advance calibration pattern test adapted from Andrew Ellis' generator, which is licensed under GNU General Public License, version 3. ago. Note the stock K value was 0. Just a quick example of potential impacts that can happen when Orca & Bambu Studio get out of sync between their release trees. When I clicked on the "Save" icon I had the opportunity to rename the profile. The firmware of the. Scroll down until you get to the part called "Assets. Ellis' generator is itself adapted from a generator developed by Sineos for. After making sure my belts were properly tensioned I started in on PA calibration tests. PXL_20230517_143300237 1920×1440 172 KB. The single part - a pressure vessel cap - just finished printing today with v1. Keep the slow speed on the top layer - I use 60mm/sec. Took other people’s advice and set my nozzle temp at 270 and bed temp at 80. Both just don't change at all over the full height. It's a fork of the Bambu Lab slicer but it's a mixture of SuperSlicer and PrusaSlicer. The Klipper tuning guide suggests how to tune pressure_advance parameter. Specifically, if the slicer dramatically changes the extrusion rate between moves then Klipper will perform deceleration and acceleration between moves. Also allows you to have 1 print profile per layer height/quality setting no matter the material used. Go to the filament settings, then enable the “Pressure Advance” setting and keep its default settings. The maximum bed temperature for the. I am able to adjust all other settings but for some reason I can’t adjust only aux fan. The following shows how pressure advance affects the seam. 1 Like. Orca Slicer with manual Pressure Advance Test: K 0,036 Bambu Studio with automatic Dynamics Flow Calibration: K 0,056 Bambu Studio with manual Dynamics Flow Calibration: K 0,045. The author marked this model as their own original creation. 034, split the difference). A tag already exists with the provided branch name. If I had to evaluate your image, I would probably choose something between 0. You might need to add the following two lines to the 'Custom Start G-code' within Orca Slicer: M104 S0 ; Stops PS/SS from sending temp waits separately. Edit: link for those curious: My understanding is that the automatic flow calibration isn't actually determining the filaments flow ratio, but is actually determining the pressure advance for the filament. 3 Vitrification temp 60 ish more likely. I used the generic out of the box profiles initially, but I’ve found that a quick flow ratio, pressure advance, and max volumetric flow rate calibration has yielded the best results especially when cracking into one I’ve never used before. 3. What do you use? Classic walls Arachne walls. Click the image to open. It shows no stringing or. If I choose the correct filament, the settings is already there. I don't know if the speed needs to. Heating time and power consumption Hotend. i was unhappy with the time it takes to lidar auto-calibrate each print as well as the accuracy of the auto-cal. Calibración de Pressure Advance a. Flow calibration enabled. I switched to Orca slicer to run the built in pressure advance calibration. Pretty much the same question: Is the Pressure advance and the K Factor the same ? zviratko August 20, 2023, 9:27pm 3. 05. 62 range, though you also increase your layer heights for faster prints and thicker layer lines as well. and set fan at 25%. Orca also has calibration tests including pressure advance. With Orca Slicer, I ran a Pressure Advance line calibration with a range of 0 to 1 and I finally see a progression in the lines. In this thread I have the same model printed using orca-slicer calibrated settings, as well as the stock Bambu PETG-CF presets. Filamentprofile für den Bambu Lab P1P by. If you want to do it in Bambu Studio without upgrading the firmware, add the following line to your filament start g-code (replace the number written in bold italics with your k-value): M900 k 0. Yes. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Orca Slicer (Might be my new favorite slicer. Monotonic lines for solid infill and top layers. I set it per nozzle+filament in Orca Slicer’s custom gcode. There is no way to "implement" linear advance in G-code, because G-code does not even have any notion of acceleration and deceleration. The "coast to end" feature provided by some slicers is a poor substitute for this, but better than nothing. r/OrcaSlicer. I’ve been using orca slicer for a few months with my P1P and recently the setting for changing the Aux fan speed has been locked on versions 1. Unofficial space for Orca Slicer users to discuss settings, features and tips. 5. Is pressure advance not a thing with a . The workflow with fusion 360 sending directly to orca, and the device. “0. It should ideally lie between 0. (This example is has the pressure advance a bit too low, but it helps to better demonstrate the effect) With CoreXY, 45 degree motions only use one motorWhy Ovals and not circles. Judging by the pictures, if it's not physical, it's printing too fast or over-extrusion. My intent was to keep adjusting the profile based on the quality of the previous, faster print. OrcaSlicer lets me do that and has per filament pressure advance settings. The inside is also perfect, for me it's like PETG is easier to print than pla 😂. For the life of me I cannot see any difference on a tower or line test. Consider using Klipper's pressure advance instead. Hi,Once pressure advance is tuned in Klipper, it may still be useful to configure a small retract value in the slicer (eg, 0. Consider using Klipper's pressure advance instead. May improve adhesion. #2. 3 change notes: Calibration improvements: Supports setting ranges for PA calibration now. The seam was still there, but nowhere. But anyway it also didn't give. Bambu Lab X1 Series Bambu Lab X1-Carbon. 5 to 53s. Find the line that stays most uniform at the speed changes marked by the top two vertical lines. 018 and 0. Volumetric Speed Limiting. As you can see, Arachne generates more complex wall infill vs a single line for classic. 4 nozzle) settings. Knowing you can print at 50mm/s @ 0. Pressure Advance : the Cura Klipper plugin adds PA values depending on these. With Orca Slicer, I ran a Pressure Advance line calibration with a range of 0 to 1 and I finally see a progression in the lines. Unofficial space for Orca Slicer users to discuss settings, features and tips. is precisely why I initially bought the X1C. more. These slicer settings may help counteract ooze caused by filament cohesion (filament pulled out of the nozzle due to the stickiness of the plastic). I've actually got it slowed down almost in half using a max volumetric flow of 5 instead of default 12 I think it was. The change was small, but noticeable for the Overture PLA. Best used with an increased Test Line Spacing and reduced Pressure Advance range. if I repeat clicking OK on the PA test the pop up appears and disappears fast but I am able to reat the Heading : Creating a new project. Calibración de Pressure Advance a traves de Orca SlicerWithout seeing your model discussing position is hard. It is important to. With Orca Slicer, I ran a Pressure Advance line calibration with a range of 0 to 1 and I finally see a progression in the lines. Run at least the flow rate (both passes), pressure advance, and max volumetric speed tests in OrcaSlicer. Calibration > Advanced calibration. 021. It's a fork of Studio and has many more settings including the ability to save the "k-value" to the filament profile. I have watched the pressure advance change in the console so I know the calibration command took, but the print corners look the same, bulging. Orca has had pressure advance settings stored in the filament profile for quite awhile, these are available to Studio but are ignored. 215 for all layers. Multicolor printing issues with Neptune 4pro upvote. I decided to try out calibration using Orca and got noticeable improvements in print quality by just changing the pressure advance. One of the settings available in orca slicer may help with your problem, it is called "seam gap" and it stops extruding material just before the print head approaches the seam, however on rounded surfaces, it makes a seam like what you are showing. 5 MK2. 70-80 C would be PETG.